A podcast by CFTE
On Trauma & Power
with Jenn Turner
A podcast about what happens when we stop asking "what is wrong with you?" and start asking "what happened to you?" — and who gets to ask. Featuring survivors, clinicians, researchers, educators, and practitioners whose work doesn't always make it to the main stage.
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Jenn Turner
LMHC · Co-Founder & Executive Director, CFTE
Jenn Turner has spent her entire career working with trauma survivors — first as a clinician, and then as one of the founders of an organization dedicated to changing how the field thinks about healing. She hosts On Trauma & Power because she believes the conversation about trauma is fundamentally incomplete without an honest conversation about power: who holds it, who doesn't, and what that does to a person's body and sense of self. She's particularly interested in uplifting voices that don't always make it to the top of the trauma speaker circuit — people whose work is innovative, self-reflective, and doing something genuinely different.
"A lot of people are talking about trauma. Not enough people are talking about power.
And when we don't name that outright — when we don't actually look at who's in the room and what they carry with them — we end up replicating the very dynamics we're trying to heal from."
"As someone who talks fast and goes deep, I wasn't sure how the conversation would land. Listening back, I couldn't believe how Jenn held the whole thing together — her questions were exactly right, her pacing was a gift, and somehow she created space for the most important things to actually get said." — Kory Andreas, LCSW-C
MOST RECENT
Season 2
Now complete, Season 2 centers voices doing innovative, self-reflective work — in clinical, community, and embodied settings.
S2 · Episode 12 · FINAL EPISODE of S2
Bringing Mindfulness into Schools from the Inside Out
Ben Painter and Sid Babla of Whole School Mindfulness join Jenn Turner for a conversation about what it actually looks like to build a mindfulness program in a school — not as an add-on intervention, not airdropped from the outside, but grown from whoever is already there, already practicing, already a little bit doing it off the side of their desk.
About the guest
Ben Painter, Co-Founder and Partner, Whole School Mindfulness
Recognized as a rising voice of mindfulness by Mindful.org
Sid Babla, Developmental Manager, Whole School Mindfulness
Certified Meditation and Yoga Instructor
Currently teaching at MIT; formerly co-led the Mindfulness Program at Dartmouth College
S2 · Episode 11
Doing This Work Without Causing Harm
Jenn sits down with Dr. Jordan Ashley — founder of Souljourn Yoga Foundation, sociologist, and human rights scholar — for a conversation about what it actually looks like to bring trauma-sensitive yoga into communities across Morocco, Rwanda, and Los Angeles while taking positionality seriously. They get into placeworld as a research framework, damage-centered research and Eve Tuck's critique of assuming trauma in the communities we work with, and what it means to hold the identity of someone from the global north while doing this work. Also: a dachshund named Pickle, and what she taught a Zoom yoga class about cultural sensitivity meeting reality.
About the guest
Dr. Jordan Ashley is the founder of Souljourn Yoga Foundation, a 501(c)(3) that creates yoga retreats and teacher training programs to fund girls' education worldwide. She holds a PhD in sociology — her doctoral fieldwork was with adolescent girls at a boarding school in Morocco, and her research sits at the intersection of embodied methodologies, feminist and decolonial frameworks, and girlhood studies. She is also a survivor of violence, and she does not foreground that fact, which tells you something about how she moves through this work.
S2 · Episode 10
Grief Is Not Something You Get Over
In this conversation with Jenn Turner, Edy opens with a practice she calls embodied curiosity: a few minutes of soft attention to the breath, a swallow, and the warmth of hands placed on the neck or shoulders — an invitation to be with yourself rather than to calm yourself down. From there, she and Jenn move through Edy's definition of grief (not just the loss of a loved one, but anything we're hungry for that can't be sated), her eleven phases of grief, why she replaced the word "closure" with "grace," and what the Timex watch she still carries tells her about integration
About the guest
Edy Nathan is a licensed psychotherapist, AASECT certified sex therapist, and internationally recognized expert on grief, trauma, and sexual healing. She's spent more than 25 years in private practice in New York City, and she's been thinking about grief — really thinking about it — since childhood, when she couldn't understand why she wasn't supposed to bury the goldfish.
S2 · Episode 9 · Most recent
The Nervous System in the Timeout
Jenn sits down with Martin Ali Simms — founder of the Dope Coach Academy and neurosequential model specialist — to talk about what happens to the nervous system during a 60-second timeout, how to weave regulation into the fabric of a practice or workout without the stigma of trauma care, and why the constraints of competitive sports turn out to be one of the most useful containers for this work. He also shares the story that quietly shaped his entire career before he even had language for it.
About the guest
Martin Ali Simms is the founder of the Dope Coach Academy and serves on the board of directors for the Attachment and Trauma Network. He works with coaches, athletes, schools, and organizations to apply neuroscience and trauma-informed practices to performance, mental wellness, and human development. Find him on LinkedIn or watch for his FIFA World Cup content in the second half of 2026.
S2 · Episode 8
When Food Is How You Survived
Kristin Zappone, RDN — registered dietitian, certified intuitive eating counselor, and co-creator of Trauma-Informed Mindful Eating (TIME) — joins Jenn Turner for a wide-ranging conversation about the relationship between food, body, trauma, and the cultural messaging that shapes all of it.
About the guest
Kristin Zappone is a registered dietitian nutritionist, certified intuitive eating counselor, certified mindful eating coach, and 200-hour yoga teacher. She co-created TIME with Helena Benton through the Center for Trauma and Embodiment. TIME's fall cohort opens September 2026.
S2 · Episode 7
Healing Without Causing Harm
Lama Rod Owens — Black Buddhist teacher, author of Love and Rage and The New Saints, and Harvard Divinity School graduate — joins Jenn Turner for one of the most searching conversations On Trauma & Power has had about power, accountability, and what it takes to do healing work over a lifetime without losing your integrity in the process.
About the guest
Lama Rod Owens is the author of Love and Rage: The Path of Liberation Through Anger, The New Saints: From Broken Hearts to Spiritual Warriors, and co-author of Radical Dharma: Talking Race, Love, and Liberation. He holds a Master of Divinity in Buddhist Studies from Harvard Divinity School.
S2 · Episode 6 · Most recent
Embodied Wellbeing as the Foundation of Healing
Elaine Miller-Karas, LCSW — trauma therapist, author, and founder of the Trauma Resource Institute — joins Jenn Turner for a wide-ranging conversation about what it actually looks like to help people reconnect with their own capacity for wellbeing, especially when that capacity has been buried under years of trauma.
About the guest
Elaine Miller-Karas, LCSW is the founder and executive director emerita of the Trauma Resource Institute, host of Resiliency Within on Voice America, and author of Building Resiliency to Trauma: The Community and Trauma Resiliency Models (2nd ed., Routledge, 2023). She is a founding member of the International Transformational Resilience Coalition.
S2 · Episode 5
Self Leadership, IFS & Healing School Culture from the Inside Out
Joanna Curry-Sartori is a licensed marriage and family therapist who has spent more than 25 years working at the intersection of psychology, education, and community wellbeing. She and Jenn explore what it actually looks like to bring the essence of Internal Family Systems outside the therapy room — into classrooms, staff meetings, and the everyday moments of organizational life. They talk about unblending, the pandemic Zoom call with 80 teachers who thought they were the only one struggling, what Sandy Hook forced Joanna to ask about the missing piece in schools, and what becomes possible when whole communities learn to show up differently for each other — not just for the people they serve.
About the guest
Joanna Curry-Sartori, LMFT is the founder and president of the Self Leadership Collaborative, a global educational organization established in 2017 that adapts Internal Family Systems for everyday application in schools, organizations, and communities. She developed the PAUSE model — a practical framework for cultivating self-awareness, compassion, and collaborative capacity in everyday relationships — with support from the Foundation for Self Leadership, initially piloting in Connecticut schools before the model spread to educational and community leaders around the world. She is the author of The Self-Led Educator, which bridges psychology and education to offer a new paradigm for relational wellbeing and leadership. You can learn more about Joanna's work and offerings at selfleadershipcollaborative.com.
S2 · Episode 4
War, Refugitude & the Body's Memory
Linda Thai understands the wounds of war, refugitude, and military occupation from the inside — as a former child refugee, an adult immigrant, and a non-citizen living in the United States today. She and Jenn explore what it means to carry intergenerational and historical trauma in the body, how the nervous system responds to authoritarianism, what it takes to decolonize our clinical practices starting with ourselves, and why affordable stable housing may be the most underestimated factor in trauma healing.
About the guest
Linda Thai, LMSW, ERYT 200 is a somatic and integrative trauma therapist, educator, and international speaker who works at the intersection of individual, collective, historical, and cultural trauma. She offers a 12-week Certificate in Somatic Embodiment & Regulation currently running through August 2026, as well as ongoing programs including The Alchemy of Anger and The Missing Pieces of Attachment Theory: A Decolonized Approach. You can find more of Linda's work at linda-thai.com.
S2 · Episode 3
Neurodivergent-Affirming Care, Meaning & What the Body Holds
Kory Andreas is a late-diagnosed autistic therapist who has spent over two decades working with neurodivergent adults. She and Jenn explore what it means to build practice around meaning rather than obligation, why interoception looks completely different in autistic bodies, and what changes when a clinician finally gets a diagnosis that reframes their entire career.
About the guest
Kory Andreas, LCSW-C is a neurodivergent-affirming therapist with over 20 years of clinical experience working with neurodivergent adults. Kory is the founder of Unplugged and Unmasked Retreats, host of That’s Me: Autistic Lives. Unfiltered. You can find more of Kory's work on Instagram @neurokoryous.
S2 · Episode 2 · April 14th, 2026
Trauma, Biology & Healing — The Science of How Trauma Embeds in the Body
Dr. Karestan Koenen is a Harvard psychiatric epidemiologist who has spent more than two decades studying what trauma does to the body at a cellular level. She and Jenn explore epigenetics, cellular change after trauma, and why the goal of this research isn't academic — it's prevention.
About the guest
Dr. Karestan Koenen is Professor of Psychiatric Epidemiology at Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health and a principal investigator at the Broad Institute. Check out her book Treating Survivors of Childhood Abuse and Interpersonal Trauma: STAIR Narrative Therapy.
S2 · Episode 1 · March 31st, 2026
Transforming Wellness Through Music — Freddie Moross of Myndstream
Freddie Moross is the Founder and CEO of Myndstream, a global wellness music company bridging artistry, science, and care. He and Jenn explore how intentionally designed soundscapes support emotional and physiological regulation — from breathwork to clinical pain management.
About the guest
Freddie Moross chairs the Global Wellness Institute's Music for Health and Wellbeing Initiative, working at the intersection of the music industry and human wellbeing for over 20 years. Freddie serves on the Global Wellness Institute (GWI) Advisory Board, while also chairing the GWI’s Music for Health and Wellbeing Initiative and sits on the Forbes Travel Guide Standards Advisory Committee.
Season 1
Episode 2
Tiffany Johnson, Ph.D.
Transforming Education and Work-Culture with Trauma Awareness
Episode 9
Jivana Heyman
Accessible Yoga: Creating Space to Explore New Perspectives
At the Center for Trauma and Embodiment, we recognize that complex trauma is both interpersonal and systemic, and that quality care models must address both dynamics. We aim to create a space where meaningful conversations about trauma and power can thrive.
This podcast is an extension of that mission, offering a space for discovery, reflection, and new ideas. We are committed to learning and growth by engaging with survivors, practitioners, and community leaders from diverse perspectives. Whether you’re a practitioner, a survivor, or someone seeking to better understand the intersections of trauma and power, we invite you to join us on this journey of healing and empowerment.
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